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Poster: FGlenF Date: Aug 1, 2011 5:06pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: The Jazz Singer

Which Jazz Singer? The one on archive is the from 1924 it has been re-made twice.

The Jazz Singer (1952) with Danny Thomas

The Jazz Singer (1980) with Neil Diamond

The 1952 The jazz singer was a Warner Bros. pictures and my guess is that it's the one under copyright along with the 1980 The Jazz Singer

So the 1924 should still be PD

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Aug 1, 2011 6:11pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: The Jazz Singer

The copyright renewal posted refers to the 1927 original movie. It should be checked to see if it has a valid copyright notice.

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Poster: FGlenF Date: Aug 1, 2011 7:22pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: The Jazz Singer

Your righ! I was looking at the 18Mar55
Maybe it isn't PD

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Poster: OTRTim Date: Aug 8, 2011 1:39pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: The Jazz Singer

Is it PD or isn't it? If it's likely to be under copyright, please remove it. Otherwise it can stay.

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Poster: MrCranky Date: Sep 17, 2011 12:49pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: The Jazz Singer

Please explain why it should be removed if 1.It was posted in good faith, 2. The owner has not filed a takedown and 3. The PD greek chorus (some of whom have a lot of information)cannot determine its status.
Whatever you do, please don't make me type another whacked-out story.

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Poster: jory2 Date: Sep 18, 2011 7:10am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: The Jazz Singer

The link below may be useful in answering some of your questions.
Maybe help guide future up-loads before this website shares a similar situation and outcome.

http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/digital/copyright/article/48722-hathitrust-suspends-its-orphan-works-release-.html

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Poster: Archfilm Date: Sep 18, 2011 10:36am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: The Jazz Singer

I believe that the upload might have been under good faith (probably unaware that the films uploaded made by others must not be under copyright status). Warner Bros. did renew the copyright on time keeping with pre-1950 copyright law, so it should be removed.

Also, I got this information from the Hathi Trust website which has scans of copyright registrations, so I know that the information is correct.

There is a valid copyright notice on the film. However, in the video that was uploaded, it only appears for a split second so you might have to pause it.

Valid copyright, valid renewal. Not public domain. And I attached the actual registration here.

Any questions?


Attachment: jazz.jpg

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Poster: jory2 Date: Sep 19, 2011 5:55am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: The Jazz Singer

"I believe that the upload might have been under good faith (probably unaware that the films uploaded made by others must not be under copyright status)."

The ease in which you found the copyright notice will make any defense of "good faith" very difficult if not impossible.
Ignorance, illiteracy, the blind leading the blind, none can be entered as a plea of good faith.


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